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Anteres0
Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 56
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: My colt BroadRiver Anteres... |
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laurenefb

Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 306 Location: Hants/Devon
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Great action shots and WOW at the video, what wonderful paces. I am sat here like this :O wow!
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Anteres0
Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 56
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhhh, THANKS!!
I think he's wonderful, but i always worry in case it's just my rose tinted spectacles!!! 
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Ruth&Meg

Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 455 Location: Dorset
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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What a gorgeous boy! Its very tempting to send my mare to you (but i haven't got the guts! sorry!) In my opinion it would be silly to geld him. Mars progeny are very well known and there is a market for them. I really do think you have a stunner there, and if I were you, I would advertise him as a standing stallion to limited mares for a small fee - just to see what you get, otherwise it seems a lovely idea but slightly wasted. Be careful you don't get mares that may put your boy down - if you catch my drift!!
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Anteres0
Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 56
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Do you think people would pay to send mares to an un-licensed stallion? Do you think i've left it too late in the year? Also do you know what the deal is with insurance if you have mares to cover for money, in case anyone get's damaged etc? I've thought about adverising him, but he's the only colt i've ever had and i just don't really know the form and don't want to do the wrong thing if you know what i mean? Would you think put an ad in the stallions on line type of site? Also how much would you think i should ask? Sorry for the million questions, but if you are / there are any experts / stallion owners that have more experience in these sorts of things than me i'd be really glad of advice?
I'm glad you think i should keep him entire, he's out of a lovely mare, just there are SO many homozygous stallions out there now, and he is neither homo, double dilute or pure breed... he's just a really nice stamp of a horse and has an exceptional temperment so i've never quite had it in me to get the vet to him if you know what i mean!!  And his first foal is a real credit to him, he's corrected ever one of the mares weaknesses so i'm a proud mummy at the moment.  I'll attatch some pics of his dam, for anyone who hasn't seen on other posts...
And not a great pic, but this is Dad;
And this is 2 cute ones of Tera on his first day!!
and 2 i took today of Fifty, his first foal;
Sure take a lot of pictures don't I !! 
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AimeeC

Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 245 Location: Bristol
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Wow can def see the Mars influence on the dam and his first foal. He is lovely, I would keep him entire and try and grade him, if he grades I would stand at stud and if he doesnt I would prob geld. He is a lovely looking boy
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volatis
Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 157
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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I think that is sensible advice. Put him forward for grading and get the opinion of the experts. There are a lot of nicely bred coloured stallions out there, so there is plenty of competition.
When I pick a heterozygous coloured stallion I always consider the worse case scenario, how easy will it be to sell a bay foal from this stallion. Does the stallion have the pedigree, performance results and progency results to make him worth that gamble, when I could breed that mare to a solid coloured stallion with all that and more and get a solid foal _________________ www.volatis.co.uk
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Anteres0
Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 56
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, that is exactly why i consider gelding him. He is a nice horse and will go on to do a job i'm sure, he has a good enough jump, nice gates and a lovely manner, but he's not bred to be a world beater, and there are no assurances what colors he'll throw so i wonder if he would have a better life as a good riding horse who can go out and about to competition etc with no hassle?
I think i will take him to the CHAPS grading as i've heard that it's the toughest one, and the one where i'm most likely to get a genuine idea of how good he is, which is held next spring. He needs to be presented under saddle though, so i better get on with breaking him! 
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sarah james

Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 1418
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:51 am Post subject: |
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_________________ life without horses & chocolate just wouldn t be worth living!
sarah x
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Anteres0
Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 56
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Sarah James!
Sounds like you're doing a great job with your two boys, that's really good work if you are beating the plain colored youngstock in the sports classes!! Well done!  Do you have some photos?
It's hard not to be sentimental about them isn't it... i love my boy and see him through rose tinted specs, but you're doing exactly the right thing taking them out and about and making sure that they can cut it under expert scrutiny aswell. It is always nice to carry on the bloodlines of favorite horses too.... my best Broodmare Solar (above) is out on breeding loan to Pencarder Stud now (too difficult having her at home with her son entire) and i'm not sure i'f i'll have her back (they totally adore her and her stock and want to buy her) so i feel even more strongly that i'd like to keep a breeding potential from her, but only if he can prove himself worthy. I just hope he does!! 
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Raquel & Isabel

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 145 Location: Galicia, Spain
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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We think you should keep him entire for many reasons, the main one being that you said he corrected everyone of the mare´s faults, that is a better reason than his colour!!
If he is easy to handle, behaves when ridden and around mares, why geld him?
We used to ride French trotter stallion who behaved perfectly when ridden, you wouldn´t believe he was a stallion!!! He used to compete in France and Spain up to 1m40 showjumping and never gave any problems with mares... Once of us have actually been on our mare on heat (and the other one on him) and we went out for a hack (the mare went beside, behind and in front) and no problems. He was alright to lead past mares, just neighed a little a jogged a bit to show off but you if you told him off he would back down.
He only behaved like a stallion when you went with a lunge line and a bridle cos he knew he was going to cover a mare.
On one memorable occasion he there was a show on for 3 days and he was jumping in the mornings and covering 3 mares in the afternoons, and he didn´t give any problems with other mares in the shows. (Maybe cos he was tired!!!  )
Another option is AI, if your stallion is difficult to handle, geld him but before you do that collect some semen and have it frozen then if you want progeny out of him you can have it without the hassle of having a stallion.
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sarah james

Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 1418
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Anteres0
Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 56
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | We think you should keep him entire for many reasons, the main one being that you said he corrected everyone of the mare´s faults, that is a better reason than his colour!!
If he is easy to handle, behaves when ridden and around mares, why geld him? |
Thanks for advice, he is very well behaved around mares at the moment, but he's not yet broken, so not sure what he'll be like to ride out with them. I have always treated him as an normal horse as much as possible rather than like a stallion, so he still turns out with the mares and stables next to them & geldings etc... he will tease and behave like a stallion with new mares or new situations, but he will calm down very quickly once her realises there isn't going to be any action going on. He is turned out next door to the field with my pony mare and foal in it at the moment, and even though he covered her a couple of weeks ago and she was obviously in season he will graze near the gate to her field but not make any efforts to get in with her until i put his bridle on and lead him in to cover. So on the whole he is very well behaved and respectful.
I think i will certainly keep him entire over the winter, get him going under saddle and then assess whether he'ss be good enough to go forward for grading in the spring.
| Quote: | Do you have some photos?
......a few
BILL at ROYAL BATH & WEST 2008 5TH OUT OF 19 SHB(GB) 2 YEAR OLDS |
WOW!! I LOVE Bill!!! He's stunning!!! Is that the LP gene that was being talked about?? I can see why you would want to keep him entire, he looks a beautiful stamp of a horse.
Springo looks a lovely type too, and obviously really proving himself by beating the plain horses! There is sometimes quite a lot of predudice from some of the judges against color, even if they claim otherwise!!
Taking the championship really proves he must be a total cracker, Well done!!!
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sarah james

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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ life without horses & chocolate just wouldn t be worth living!
sarah x
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